Comments on: Ajax Security by Billy Hoffman and Bryan Sullivan http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/ mostly useless crap from me Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:31:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: » Llibre sobre AJAX i seguretat * Quands.cat http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-16188 » Llibre sobre AJAX i seguretat * Quands.cat Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:03:24 +0000 http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-16188 [...] tracta del tema específic de la seguretat en aplicacions Ajax i del que estic veient força comentaris molt positius: If you are writing or reviewing Ajax code, you need this book. Billy and Bryan have done a stellar [...] [...] tracta del tema específic de la seguretat en aplicacions Ajax i del que estic veient força comentaris molt positius: If you are writing or reviewing Ajax code, you need this book. Billy and Bryan have done a stellar [...]

]]> By: The SPI laboratory : Ajax Security Book is published with strong buzz and reviews http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-15991 The SPI laboratory : Ajax Security Book is published with strong buzz and reviews Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:40:56 +0000 http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-15991 [...] in the web security spaces are saying about it:Andrew van der Stock The Executive Director of OWASP reviewed a draft of Ajax Security and here is what he had to say about it:If you are writing or reviewing Ajax code, you need this [...] [...] in the web security spaces are saying about it:Andrew van der Stock The Executive Director of OWASP reviewed a draft of Ajax Security and here is what he had to say about it:If you are writing or reviewing Ajax code, you need this [...]

]]> By: I, too, have a beard http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-15342 I, too, have a beard Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:33:56 +0000 http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-15342 Hey Noddy, Fair points on the use of architect in a broader sense than which it was originally known. My issue (which I don't think you've addressed above) is the use of architect as a verb. Other than one weird online dictionary, I've yet to find any source with "dictionary" in the title which recognizes "architect" as a verb (either transitive or intransitive). Your list above looks similar (different scale) to most projects in large enterprise space I've worked on too... Cheers, The Wing Commander Hey Noddy,

Fair points on the use of architect in a broader sense than which it was originally known.

My issue (which I don’t think you’ve addressed above) is the use of architect as a verb. Other than one weird online dictionary, I’ve yet to find any source with “dictionary” in the title which recognizes “architect” as a verb (either transitive or intransitive).

Your list above looks similar (different scale) to most projects in large enterprise space I’ve worked on too…

Cheers,
The Wing Commander

]]> By: vanderaj http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-15298 vanderaj Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:27:47 +0000 http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-15298 Paul, it is too late. Architect has several meanings in the larger and more prestigious dictionaries, and it is in common use in the IT industry (and others). There is a real distinction in most of the large corporations I've worked in: Business Planning Requirements Analysis Architecture - the bit that will not change in the lifetime of the project Design - the mechanicals of how this particular incarnation will implement the architecture. Can change over time and be re-factored, but will be true to the architecture Build Test Deploy Rinse and repeat Paul,

it is too late. Architect has several meanings in the larger and more prestigious dictionaries, and it is in common use in the IT industry (and others). There is a real distinction in most of the large corporations I’ve worked in:

Business Planning
Requirements Analysis
Architecture - the bit that will not change in the lifetime of the project
Design - the mechanicals of how this particular incarnation will implement the architecture. Can change over time and be re-factored, but will be true to the architecture
Build
Test
Deploy
Rinse and repeat

]]> By: I, too, have a beard http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-14977 I, too, have a beard Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:14:22 +0000 http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-14977 It's ironic that architects (the profession noun) chose not to verb their title: they use the cleaner "to design". What is the difference (in an IT context) of "to architect" and "to design"? I agree that langugaes change over time. That's not to say that changes should be accepted uncritically; some changes distort clarity and meaning. This is a common tool-in-trade of politicians (see Orwell, 1947, for his doubleminusbad book). Why, I remember when those contractors in Iraq used to be called mercenaries. Hell, I even remember when Ajax was a cleaning product rather than a framework. My belief is that this use of architect as a verb is to be discouraged, unless someone is able to point out a genuine distinction between "to achitect" and "to design". The Wing Commander It’s ironic that architects (the profession noun) chose not to verb their title: they use the cleaner “to design”. What is the difference (in an IT context) of “to architect” and “to design”?

I agree that langugaes change over time. That’s not to say that changes should be accepted uncritically; some changes distort clarity and meaning. This is a common tool-in-trade of politicians (see Orwell, 1947, for his doubleminusbad book). Why, I remember when those contractors in Iraq used to be called mercenaries. Hell, I even remember when Ajax was a cleaning product rather than a framework.

My belief is that this use of architect as a verb is to be discouraged, unless someone is able to point out a genuine distinction between “to achitect” and “to design”.

The Wing Commander

]]> By: vanderaj http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-14967 vanderaj Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:47:40 +0000 http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-14967 Because I love verbing words. In particular, "to architect" is actually a very common usage. I hear it all the time at conferences. Languages change and move around. This is one of those times. Andrew Because I love verbing words. In particular, “to architect” is actually a very common usage. I hear it all the time at conferences. Languages change and move around. This is one of those times.

Andrew

]]> By: I, too, have a beard http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-14945 I, too, have a beard Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:08:17 +0000 http://www.greebo.net/2007/10/15/ajax-security-by-billy-hoffman-and-bryan-sullivan/#comment-14945 When did the word "architect" become a verb? Why don't you just write "building and designing"? [Note: the "you" in the previous sentence directed at anyone who thinks architect is a verb. As Calvin once said, in a strip on verbing (sic) words, "Perhaps one day we can make language a complete impediment to understanding". Or maybe it was Hobbes who said that. Either way, it was definitely Bill Watterson. I've half a bottle of red inside me, and well on the way to becoming truly sloshed.] When did the word “architect” become a verb? Why don’t you just write “building and designing”?

[Note: the "you" in the previous sentence directed at anyone who thinks architect is a verb. As Calvin once said, in a strip on verbing (sic) words, "Perhaps one day we can make language a complete impediment to understanding". Or maybe it was Hobbes who said that. Either way, it was definitely Bill Watterson. I've half a bottle of red inside me, and well on the way to becoming truly sloshed.]

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